Sunday, August 31, 2014

Interviews -- Geminatronix

Geminatronix' interview is linked below:



Observations:
  • Very energetic, enthusiastic
  • Describes "not being bored easily." "I could have fun in a paper bag." "My cup is always full."
  • Assiduous. Collects information on "what is happening" that might be useful in the future -- call university to ask about any interesting courses this year as part of a highly unstructured degree program.
  • Cause-oriented. Wants to work in eastern DRC (Democratic Republic of the Congo), to educate, alleviate rape culture. Quickly and easily thinks of and remembers llimany things that should be changed.
  • Describes a certain conflict of viewpoint in educating her daughter, prefers to let her daughter simply be without becoming argumentative, at other times feels a need to impose more order and education.Wants to educate her daughter about "how your actions impact another person." Although shortly added afterwards, sometimes, "she just needs the rules." Mostly her educational concerns deal with emotional well-being.
  • At few points in video describes emotional attitudes very openly: "I have a lot of love for my friends and am also very fiercely loyal"
  • Some interesting isolated comments, "Other people say I am a strong person", "I give myself a hard time about some things"
  • Describes that conflict in relationships is sometimes beneficial: "That's a really interesting thing someone told me, about how one of the key factors is conflict resolution, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't have conflict; you should have conflict, because often that's an important talk to get to the resolution stage [...] [Without conflict] it just kind of builds resentment, it kind of gets buried"

A lot of my observations in this video are not behaviors that are shown to us but rather observations of thematic content and language that Geminatronix uses. Some of these:

  • "Rebellious", "inquisitive." Repeatedly describes herself as rebellious. Early in the video describes disliking hierarchies which are seen as arbitrary -- describes herself as asking "why" and having a rebellious, inquisitive attitude towards school. Provides imagery early on in the video, metaphorically domineering teachers standing at their desk while the students are sitting in a physically submissive position.
  • "I do like structure though, I like a framework but I generally rebel against it."
  • "But sometimes I'd like the discipline, but then I naturally rebel against it so it's a bit of a vicious cycle." "Interviewer: Maybe you need the right kind of discipline." "Yes I do!"  
Also, here are some extended quotes that I think give a good context of Geminatronix' worldview, describing abstract imagery and a socially interconnected utopia:
So my utopia tends to be more of a fantasy-based land, I suppose, you know I'm thinking of sort of a place in the clouds, you know what I think of, I think of something like Avatar, where there's a kind of a tribalism but there's also something uniquely futuristic where we are so kind of at one with our environment and so at harmony with each other, and our communications are on a different level. And sometimes I think that is what the world needs, is just to go back to basics, but with the intelligence and the progression, with our newfound knowledge to then strip away the fake and the plastic. But you know, I'm not naive enough to think that's really easy.

[...]

I like the idea of using intelligence to communicate not only with each other, but also with our environment [...] Everyone is [connected] but they're just not aware of it. I certainly believe, I mean I just imagine that there's kind of like thousands and millions of invisible strings that kind of connect everyone up in some way. But no one's aware of them. It's not like a half-baked tin foil theory, it's just an idea that there is something. I believe that there is something that binds us.
Gemina also has an orientation towards the malleable emotional character of the world, towards social causes, and towards idealistic supra-worldly change:
There's a great sadness about the world we live in, because -- you know sometimes you have these kind of pivotal moments in your life where something really profoundly affects you and its kind of like a real kind of an awakening, an awareness to the state of the way things are. [...] Something that really profoundly shakes you, everything that you thought you knew, you still know, but there's this whole other world as well.
And that's quite disheartening as well, because you kinda had this ideal and thought everything was rosy and wonderful but someone goes 'Oh look there's this whole black area over here'
The way the world is, well, there's a very stark divide in the way the world is, and of course there's variation within it but the main divide is the Western world and the third world.
In one respect if I look at the world as the world, without the race, you know without humans, without all of these things it's just the most amazing wonderful beautiful place and nature is just awesome, literally, leaves you in awe, and then you've got space and the beyond, which is a whole another thing altogether which is even more beautiful and fascinating, and that's just sort of the world and the universe as is, and we're pretty insignificant by comparison.
My interpretation of this evidence is that Geminatronix is very clearly a beta quadra type, and likely EIE.

This last extended quote reveals an idealistic attitude common to beta quadra types. In particular, it describes the world as a beautiful place, but a place whose beauty can change quickly based on fleeting emotional awareness and profound experiences that alter the substance of people inside. It characterizes the world as a place in need of change, literally supra-worldly change as the conversation veers from describing the awe of the world to the awe of the cosmos.

Throughout the interview it is reasonable to characterize Geminatronix' comments thematically as having the same themes: perceiving an idealistic world that must be changed for the better. Much of this idealism is oriented towards other people's emotional well-being and  Gemina's comments often focus on supra-worldly goals -- that is, her orientation towards improving the world starts with high goals that are broad in scope (literally, greater in scope than the world itself). A marked orientation towards idealism and charitable causes and causing change oneself is somewhat common in beta NF types in my opinion.

Geminatronix use of abstract imagery that makes little sense in the world is most common in Ni ego types. The imagery of "many strings connecting people" is similar to the abstract imagery described by Paul A. in another blog post, who I believe is IEI. The imagery also has an orientation towards authenticity -- the connections between people pass through "masks" that people put on in order to guard themselves. This authenticity is a core issue of Fe-oriented types who are oriented towards changing emotions and have dynamically evolving views of the self.


Throughout the interview, Geminatronix repeatedly characterizes herself as rebellious. She even mentions V for Vendetta at the end of the interview, one of the canonical examples of a beta-oriented film. V for Vendetta focuses on rebellion, overcoming challenges in order to change one's own viewpoint and see the truth, and effecting supra-worldly social change, although in the context of the movie in a highly fantastical and not particularly realistic way. This rebelliousness is generally described as "rebelling against structure." However, while she describes disliking structure, she also has a number of comments about the "vicious cycle" that beta types sometimes show, of enjoying structure but also rebelling against it. In this sense, beta types, particularly EIEs, do not actually dislike structure in their environment; rather they dislike the way their environment precludes their self-expression or something else about their environment. This is well reflected in some of Geminatronix' examples of, for instance, how she was an inquisitive young student in high school, who talked back to her teachers and asked why the environment was structured in such a way that symbolized the teachers having power while the students sat submissively at their desks.

The interchange "Maybe you just need the right kind of discipline" "Yes I do!" perfectly sums up the topic.

For Geminatronix, the topic of educating others is not a highly individual pursuit, it seems more like a pursuit of helping many people and changing the world in a much broader way.

Geminatronix' comments about conflict are also characteristic of the beta quadra. She described the philosophy that conflict is good because it allows for emotions to be fully expressed and let out on the table. This is exactly the philosophy shared by beta quadra types, with Fe+Se. Many delta NFs are more conflict avoidant.
 

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